| Unorthodox ideas - zero-particle is most elementary particle Subscribe From: PESS5 Jan-4 1:19 am To: CHOPING (3 of 20) 517.3 in reply to 517.1 Hmmm. Well, there is no doubt some most elementary particle exists. I would agree that it would be of the EM energy as opposed to matter energy. The most elementary particle would be an EM wave of no rest mass and possessing the most minimal of effective mass of all EM waves. But then, this is merely a wave in spacetime just as it begins to form or cease. This implies that by elementary, one means "possessing the smallest amount of energy". One could argue that the 1st primordal particle (assuming it existed) which created the big bang & later the universe as we know it was the most elementary particle from which all others were born ... although it would bear the highest energy, all the energy in the universe today including it's potential energy it may have. Pess5 From: WHELOC Jan-4 9:59 am To: PESS5 (4 of 20) 517.4 in reply to 517.3 I, at least, have some doubt that "some most elementaty particle exists". Why couldn't particles be forever divisible? We have the math to describe such a universe? --- Adam Wheelock Boisvert "Terra non est centra mundi." - Nicholas of Cusa Edited 1/4/2002 10:07:51 AM ET by WHELOC From: TODDKELSO Jan-4 12:23 pm To: WHELOC (5 of 20) 517.5 in reply to 517.4 >I, at least, have some doubt that some most elementary particle exists. Why couldn't particles be forever divisible? < Space has smallest parts, known as points. Further, space is, and is nothing other than, the set of all its points. A physical object always occupies some part of space, some set of points. If P is any one of these points, then some part of the object must occupy the point P. Otherwise, P would not be one of the points that is occupied by the whole object. If Q is some other one of these points, then the part of the object that occupies the point Q is a different part of the object than the part of the object that occupies the point P, since no object, and no one part of any object, has two different locations in space at the same time. The object is thus one of two things. Either it is itself an object that occupies precisely one point, that is, it is a particle, or else it is a set of more than one particle. 。。。。。。。。。。。。。。 http://zerotom.com |