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有网友来信问我在重庆宾馆与冯劲松先生的谈话内容
[楼主] 作者:刘武青  发表时间:2003/10/31 21:58
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有网友来信问我在重庆宾馆与冯劲松先生的谈话内容

我们谈到证据的重要性,下次西安会或者其他的会,关键是在会上作演示,提前数天到会场,将演示的实验装置安装完成。

在会上,用无可辩驳的事实,让反对者无话可说。

冯劲松先生在会上将做光子质量测量等的实验作演示。

让参会者亲手做实验,证明光子有质量。

我将更一步的光源旋转效应、被屏蔽的电磁力、电场力影响万有引力的实验作演示。

让参会者自已亲手做实验,证明牛顿万有引力定律及爱因斯坦的光电方程有局限性。牛顿万有引力定律中绝对化的任何二字应删除。爱因斯坦的水星进动的解释是不对的。光电方程不适用于光源旋转。

这次西安会,与会者也亲手做过光源旋转效应实验,但没有用示波器。是用的微安计。

如果是化学会,还可以演示刘武青效应,即同种金属作电极、同种浓度的电解液体在闭合回路中有电流的流动。

总之,要拿出证据来,最好是实物,等效实验也可以。

 

注:冯劲松先生是光子质量的测定者。

 

刘武青,三个效应,http://cqfyl.nease.net>

 

 

 



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 [2楼]  作者:jqsphy  发表时间: 2003/11/01 10:55 

又是在吹牛了。

目前光子质量的实验上限是:1.2×10^(-54)Kg,见今年三月份的论文:J. Luo(罗俊), L. C. Tu, Z. K. Hu and E. J. Luan, Phys. Rev. Lett. {\bf 90} (2003) 081801.

 

光子质量实验可以分为两类:一类基于Ampere-Maxwell-Proca equation,另一类基于Lagrangian (or Hamiltonian) density of electromagnetically interacting system。无论是哪类实验都有三个特点:装置庞大;要在特殊条件下做实验(如山洞里面,山壁要厚大40米以上,如罗俊实验,Phys. Rev. Lett. {\bf 90} (2003) 081801);数据处理需要用计算机,很耗时间。

请问,这位冯劲松先生还能在西安会议讲台上演示他的实验装置????再请问他得到的光子质量实验上限是多少?比1.2×10^(-54)Kg大还是小?如果是比1.2×10^(-54)Kg大,那么他什么意义都没有。

以下是近三十年有关于光子质量实验的论文:
 \bibitem{Feinberg} G. Feinberg, Nature {\bf 166} (1969) 879.

\bibitem{Williams} E. R. Williams, J. E. Faller and H. A. Hill, Phys. Rev.
Lett. {\bf 26} (1971) 721.

\bibitem{Goldhaber} A. S. Goldhaberand, M. M. Nieto, Rev. Mod.
Phys. {\bf 43} (1971) 277.

\bibitem{Barrow} J. D. Barrow and R. R. Burman, Nature {\bf 307} (1984) 14.

\bibitem{Davis} L. Davis, A. S. Goldhaber and M. M. Nieto, Phys.
Rev. Let. {\bf 35} (1975) 1402.

\bibitem{Gintsburg} M. A. Gintsburg, Sov. Astron. {\bf 7} (1964) 536.

\bibitem{Chernikov} M. A. Chernikov, C. J. Gerber and H. R. Ott, Phys. Rev. Lett. {\bf 68} (1992) 3383.

\bibitem{Fischbach} E. Fischbach, H. Kloor, R. A. Langel, {\it et al.}, Phys. Rev. Lett. {\bf 73} (1994) 514.

\bibitem{Lakes} R. Lakes, Phys. Rev. Lett. {\bf 80} (1998) 1826.

\bibitem{Schaefer} B. E. Schaefer, Phys.
Rev. Let. {\bf 82} (1999) 4964.

\bibitem{Luo} J. Luo, L. C. Tu, Z. K. Hu and E. J. Luan, Phys. Rev. Lett. {\bf 90}
 (2003) 081801.

以下是本人对以上10篇论文结果的文献综述:

During the last three decades, photon rest mass problem captured
special attention of many investigators who have reported several
experimental upper limits on the photon mass $m_{\gamma}$ by using
various
methods\cite{Feinberg,Williams,Goldhaber,Barrow,Davis,Gintsburg,Chernikov,Fischbach,Lakes}.
Since the radiation from pulsars and/or certain explosive
astrophysical events at high redshift can be used to place the
severe limits on both the fractional variation ($\triangle c/c$)
in the speed of light with frequency and the photon rest
mass\cite{Schaefer}, in 1969 Feinberg analyzed the data obtained
in the detection of the sharply defined radio and optical pulses
from pulsars and indicated that the rest mass of a real photon is
less than $10^{-47}$ Kg\cite{Feinberg}. Goldhaber {\it et al.}
discussed the method used to set a limit on the photon rest mass
({\it e.g.}, sensitive techniques which test Coulomb's law and its
analog in magnetostatics) and showed that the laboratory tests of
Coulomb's law\cite{Williams} gave an upper limit on photon rest
mass of $2\times 10^{-50}$ Kg and the constant ``external''
magnetic field experiment at the Earth's surface obtained a limit
$m_{\gamma}\leq 4\times 10^{-51}$ Kg\cite{Goldhaber}. The
experiments of Pioneer-10 measurement of Jovian magnetic
field\cite{Davis} and hydromagnetic wave in the Earth's
magnetosphere and solar wind\cite{Gintsburg} derived an upper
limit on $m_{\gamma}$ of about $10^{-52}$ Kg. In 1992 Chernokov
{\it et al.} suggested a new method to set an upper limit on the
photon mass at low temperature ($1.24$ K) based on a null test of
Amp\`{e}re's law and their experiment resulted in an upper limit
about $10^{-48}$ Kg\cite{Chernikov}. Fischbach {\it et al.}
investigated a new geometric limit on the photon rest mass which
was derived from an analysis of satellite measurements of the
Earth's magnetic field. The order of magnitude of the upper limit
on $m_{\gamma}$ obtained by Fischbach {\it et al.} was $10^{-51}$
Kg\cite{Fischbach}. In 1998, Lakes reported that their
experimental approach based on a toroid Cavendish balance which
was used to evaluate the product of photon rest mass squared and
the ambient cosmic magnetic vector potential gave an upper limit
on $m_{\gamma}$ of about $4\times 10^{-52}$ Kg\cite{Lakes}. More
recently, Luo {\it et al.} obtained the most new upper limit on
photon rest mass of $1.2\times 10^{-54}$ Kg by means of {\it
rotating torsion balance} experiment\cite{Luo}.

Although both Luo {\it et al.}'s experimental scheme and their
obtained results are excellent and impressive, here we have a
supplement to their results, since our evaluation shows that the
{\it photon effective rest mass} due to the {\it self-induced
charge currents}\cite{Ho,Scr} in the environmental dilute plasma
({\it e.g.}, the muon ($\mu$) component and alpha-particles in the
secondary cosmic ray flux) is just the {\it same} order of
magnitude\cite{Shen} as Luo's obtained upper limit on photon mass.

In addition, it is worthwhile to point out that there are two main
classes of experiments to detect photon rest mass based on the
Amp\`{e}re-Maxwell-Proca equation and the Lagrangian (or
Hamiltonian) density of electromagnetically interacting system,
respectively. The torsion balance experiments\cite{Lakes,Luo}
considered here fall into the latter class ({\it i.e.}, based on
the electromagnetic Lagrangian and Hamiltonian density).        
                            

 [3楼]  作者:jqsphy  发表时间: 2003/11/01 11:00 

本人关于光子质量的工作

本人关于光子质量的工作:
罗俊实验(J. Luo(罗俊), L. C. Tu, Z. K. Hu and E. J. Luan, Phys. Rev. Lett. {\bf 90} (2003) 081801)证明目前光子质量的实验上限是:1.2×10^(-54)Kg。

我通过研究次级宇宙射线中谬子稀薄等离子体的self-induced charge current效应,计算得到谬子的自极化附加给光子的有效质量是(0.3到1)×10^(-54)Kg,即与罗俊实验的数据处于同一个数量级。这说明了:未来的测量光子质量实验需要预先排除次级宇宙射线中谬子稀薄等离子体的self-induced charge current效应,这样才能测量到光子内禀质量。

 [4楼]  作者:kissangela  发表时间: 2003/11/01 14:01 

hehe,你计算的光子质量范围仅局限与可见光的范围(我这么说你可能认为我错了,原因光子的本质应该好好推敲,现在光子的定义应该
有网友来信问我在重庆宾馆与冯劲松先生的谈话内容
 [5楼]  作者:kissangela  发表时间: 2003/11/01 14:07 

真正的光子内禀质量应该说测量出来只能是一个范围,冯松测的最多一黄绿色光子群的平均数值(不考虑误差影响的情况下),此数据不
有网友来信问我在重庆宾馆与冯劲松先生的谈话内容
 [6楼]  作者:jqsphy  发表时间: 2003/11/01 14:07 

文不对题。
有网友来信问我在重庆宾馆与冯劲松先生的谈话内容
 [7楼]  作者:jqsphy  发表时间: 2003/11/01 14:09 

数据大小?
有网友来信问我在重庆宾馆与冯劲松先生的谈话内容
 [8楼]  作者:kissangela  发表时间: 2003/11/01 14:10 

他什么时候不吹呀!你见过么,我没见过
有网友来信问我在重庆宾馆与冯劲松先生的谈话内容
 [9楼]  作者:kissangela  发表时间: 2003/11/01 14:13 

最近写书对光子质量的数据的采用一直头疼的说
有网友来信问我在重庆宾馆与冯劲松先生的谈话内容
 [10楼]  作者:kissangela  发表时间: 2003/11/01 14:15 

只是理论计算了最小的限度,最近的peper中的数据范围应该都是可见光范围内的表现
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