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特别的中国式歧视与质量-电荷相互作用的确立 鲁重贤

Posted by 刘武青 (124.162.27.189) on 2008-10-26 18:05:55:

中式岐视与电荷-质量相互作用的验证 by C. Y. Lo
Special Chinese Discrimination & Confirmation of the Mass-Charge Interaction

As some observers pointed out, a problem of many Chinese is that they do not believe in the work done by a Chinese. This strange kind of discrimination seems to be also unique among all the nations in the world.
A famous victim is mathematician Professor S. T. Yau because almost no Chinese, except his students, stands out for the fact that Chu, Cao and Yau complete the proof of the Poincare conjecture [1]. A less known case is that physicist Professor Zhou Pei-Yuan being the first to point out Einstein's covariance principle invalid was not recognized in China. Unfortunately, Nobel Laureate, Professor C. N. Yang, who take Chinese salary for many years, also refused to help clarifying this situation.
This seemed to happen again in the confirmation of the mass-charge interaction. Many refused to believe the experimental work of Mr. Liu W. Q. on his experiments of weighting capacitor before and after charged. This is an important experiment that would confirm the newly discovered mass-charge repulsive force since a charged capacitor becomes lighter. However, for no valid reason, many do not believed his work until they learned that Nasa observed anomaly from the orbits of the space-probes pioneer 10 and 11 [2]. I pointed out that this anomaly is due to the mass-charge repulsive force. This is so because this anomaly is necessarily due to a repulsive force from the Sun because the two pioneer leave the solar system in opposite directions, and a pioneer has a large charge reservation for sending signals.
This is important because it would confirm the r -3 dependence of this force (r being the distance between the point mass and the charge of another point like particle. However, this should be expected if one have confidence on general relativity. The reason will be explained in the subsequent paragraphs.
The characteristic of this new force has three features [3]: 1) it is a repulsive force 2) it depends on r -3. 3) this force is not subjected electromagnetic screening. The first two features are based on general relativity, but the last feature is based on the existence of a five dimensional space. However, while there are plenty supports for general relativity, there was no physical evidence for the existence of a five dimensional space, Therefore the weighting capacitors before and after charged is crucial since it is a test for the existence of a five dimensional space,
Thus, after the capacitor weighting experiment confirms that a charged capacitor becomes lighter, I believe that the verification of my theory is essentially completed. This is so because I have confidence on general relativity. Thus, one of my main contributions is really the recognition that the force is not subjected to electromagnetic screening from my investigation of the five-dimensional theory about 30 years ago. It follows that the experiment of capacitor weighting of Mr. Liu is crucial for the confirmation of this new force.
The contribution of Nasa's observation of pioneer anomaly, of course, further confirms the existence the repulsive force However, a major contribution is really just making others having confidence on the experiments of Liu. I hope and pray that Mr. Liu is the last victim for this kind of discrimination.

References:
1. "朱曹首先达到峰顶"，"众口一词'完整证明'的潜台词"，Newsletter of Lingnan University Alumni Association (January-April, 2007), p. 129.
2. Robert Lee Hotz, "Newton, Einstein Lost in Space-Scientist May be Getting Warmer in Finding Why Pioneer Probes Veered off Course," Wall Street Journal, May 16, 2008, PA7.
3. The Necessity of Unifying Gravitation and Electromagnetism, Mass-Charge Repulsive Effects, and the Five Dimensional Theory, Bulletin of Pure and Applied Sciences, 26D (1), 29 - 42 (2007a).
特别的中国式歧视与质量-电荷相互作用的确立 鲁重贤

正如一些观察家指出，许多中国人的问题的是，他们不相信由一个中国人所做的工作。这种奇怪的歧视似乎在世界各民族之中也是很独特的。关于这一方面，毛泽东先生在他的著作中也早已论述了。
一位著名的受害者便是数学家丘成桐教授，因为，除了他的学生们外，几乎少有别的中国人站出来支持，事实上朱、曹、和丘完成了庞加莱猜想的证明[ 1 ] 。另一个较不知名的例子是，中国不承认物理学教授周培源首先指出，爱因斯坦的协变原理无效[ 2, 3 ]。更不幸的是，诺贝尔奖得主，杨振宁教授也拒绝帮助澄清这一情况，虽然他已在中国领取工资多年了。
似乎这种岐视又再次发生在电荷-质量的相互作用的确立上。许多人拒绝相信刘武青先生的实验工作，特别是电容充电之前和之后的量称。这是一个能确立新发现的质量-电荷间的排斥力的重要实验，因为带电电容器变得更轻了。然而，虽然没有任何站得住脚的理由，许多人却不相信他的工作。直到他们了解到，美国宇航局公布了观察到太空探测器先驱10号和11号的轨道异常，违反了牛顿的及爱因斯坦的引力理论[ 4 ] 。我指出，这一反常现象是由于电荷-质量排斥力所致。其之所以如此，是因为这种异常现象必然是由源于太阳的质量-电荷排斥力所致。因为这两个先驱在相反的方向离开太阳系，并贮有大量的电源来发送讯号。
这一点很重要，因为这将会确认这种力量对r -3的依赖（r是点质量和另一点电荷之间的距离）。然而，如果对广义相对论有信心的话，这应该是预期的。这将在随后的段落解释。
这种新的力量有三个特点[ 5 ] ： 1 ）它是一个排斥力2 ）它取决于r -3 。 3 ）这种力量不受电磁屏蔽。前两个特点是根据广义相对论，但最后特点的基础是五维空间的存在。然而，尽管广义相对论有多种支持，过去却没有支持五维空间存在确实的物理证据。因此，充电前，后电容器的称量是至关重要，因为它是一个测试五维空间的存在的实验。
因此，在电容器称量实验证实，充电的电容器变得更轻之后。我相信，我理论的验证可能已基本上已完成。之所以如此，是因为我对广义相对论有信心。因而，我的一个主要贡献是；从我大约30年前研究的五维空间理论，真正的认识到这种力是不会受到电磁的屏蔽。因此，刘先生实验的电容量称，在确立这种新的力量是至关重要。
当然，美国宇航局的观测的轨道异常的贡献，进一步证实了这种新发现排斥力的存在。然而，一个重大贡献其实是让别人对刘先生的实验有了信心。我希望并祈祷，刘先生是最后一个受到这种中国式的特殊歧视。

参考文献：
1. "朱曹首先达到峰顶"，"众口一词'完整证明'的潜台词"，Newsletter of Lingnan University Alumni Association (January-April, 2007), p. 129.
2. C. Y. Lo, The Principle of General Relativity, the Restriction to Covariance, and Stanford's Experiment Gravity Probe-B, Phys. Essays 18 (1), 112-124 (March 2005).
3. C. Y. Lo, The Deflection of Light to Second Order and Invalidity of the "Principle of Covariance", Bulletin of Pure and Applied Sciences, 27D (1), 1-15 (2008).
4. Robert Lee Hotz, "Newton, Einstein Lost in Space-Scientist May be Getting Warmer in Finding Why Pioneer Probes Veered off Course," Wall Street Journal, May 16, 2008, PA7.
5. The Necessity of Unifying Gravitation and Electromagnetism, Mass-Charge Repulsive Effects, and the Five Dimensional Theory, Bulletin of Pure and Applied Sciences, 26D (1), 29 - 42 (2007a).
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Re: 特别的中国式歧视与质量-电荷相互作用的确立 鲁重贤 - 你别祈祷了，除了傻子没人相信你 2008-10-26 23:08:17
中国计量科学研究对电容器充电前后称量有测试证书 - 刘武青 2008-10-27 08:29:56
中国计量科学研究院对电容器充电前后称量有测试证书 - 刘武青 2008-10-27 08:30:59
Re: 中国计量科学研究对电容器充电前后称量有测试证书 - cs 2008-10-27 08:41:29
Re: 中国计量科学研究对电容器充电前后称量有测试证书 - 刘武青 2008-10-27 09:18:57
你不给出数据，让人如何相信你？！ - cs 2008-10-28 08:35:29
Re: 你不给出数据，让人如何相信你？！ - 刘武青 2008-10-28 12:03:00
Re: 特别的中国式歧视与质量-电荷相互作用的确立 鲁重贤 - C.Y.Lo 2008-10-27 18:06:14
Re: 特别的中国式歧视与质量-电荷相互作用的确立 鲁重贤 - 5589 2008-10-27 12:41:48
 
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 Re: 特别的中国式歧视与质量-电荷相互作用的确立 鲁重贤

Posted by 你别祈祷了，除了傻子没人相信你 (222.29.40.135) on 2008-10-26 23:08:17:

In Reply to: 特别的中国式歧视与质量-电荷相互作用的确立 鲁重贤 posted by 刘武青 on 2008-10-26 18:05:55:

你别祈祷了；相对论没有错误。麻省理工学院出版一本的那本 狭义相对论导论 特别经典，估计你看了后就会佩服狭义相对论的魅力。
你们这些反相对论的人根本就没有理解相对论，你说它错当然没有人相信了。刘武青的试验没能证明什么呢， 因为光速的平方接近十的十七次方，相比之下那点能量产生的质量几乎就是零。你也不想想，他的天平精度才万分之一，十的十七次方的倒数是什么概念你明白吗。其实和你谈这些根本没有必要，物理学的大门你还没有看到。量子场论就是建立在狭义相对论和量子力学的基础上的，已被证明是迄今为止最精确的理论。估计你肯定不懂了
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中国计量科学研究对电容器充电前后称量有测试证书

Posted by 刘武青 (58.17.247.190) on 2008-10-27 08:29:56:

In Reply to: Re: 特别的中国式歧视与质量-电荷相互作用的确立 鲁重贤 posted by 你别祈祷了，除了傻子没人相信你 on 2008-10-26 23:08:17:

中国计量科学研究对电容器充电前后称量，出具了测试证书
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中国计量科学研究院对电容器充电前后称量有测试证书

Posted by 刘武青 (58.17.247.190) on 2008-10-27 08:30:59:

In Reply to: 中国计量科学研究对电容器充电前后称量有测试证书 posted by 刘武青 on 2008-10-27 08:29:56:

中国计量科学研究院对电容器充电前后称量有测试证书
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Re: 中国计量科学研究对电容器充电前后称量有测试证书

Posted by cs (162.105.61.24) on 2008-10-27 08:41:29:

In Reply to: 中国计量科学研究对电容器充电前后称量有测试证书 posted by 刘武青 on 2008-10-27 08:29:56:

我再问一次，你的电容C=?充电电压V=?这样算出的充电能量E=?你测出的充电能量又是多少?这是做一个实验必须想到和回答的问题。
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Re: 中国计量科学研究对电容器充电前后称量有测试证书

Posted by 刘武青 (58.17.247.190) on 2008-10-27 09:18:57:

In Reply to: Re: 中国计量科学研究对电容器充电前后称量有测试证书 posted by cs on 2008-10-27 08:41:29:

以实测结果为准。
实测的数据，被屏蔽的电容器充电后，天平显示数据减小。

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你不给出数据，让人如何相信你？！

Posted by cs (162.105.61.24) on 2008-10-28 08:35:29:

In Reply to: Re: 中国计量科学研究对电容器充电前后称量有测试证书 posted by 刘武青 on 2008-10-27 09:18:57:

换个电容还有此结果吗？换个电压呢？你不给出数据，不想让人分析和检验这个实验，让人如何相信你？！
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Re: 你不给出数据，让人如何相信你？！

Posted by 刘武青 (58.17.143.150) on 2008-10-28 12:03:00:

In Reply to: 你不给出数据，让人如何相信你？！ posted by cs on 2008-10-28 08:35:29:

进入国家科技文献中心、中国预印本报务系统
http://preprint.nstl.gov.cn/newprint/index.jsp
文章检索中输入刘武青三个字，就可以查到我写的论文。
数据是很多的。
另外，我参加了数次学术会，在会上我也讲了数据。
在百度、谷欹中，检索我的数据也是很方便的。
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Re: 特别的中国式歧视与质量-电荷相互作用的确立 鲁重贤

Posted by C.Y.Lo (124.162.36.99) on 2008-10-27 18:06:14:

In Reply to: Re: 特别的中国式歧视与质量-电荷相互作用的确立 鲁重贤 posted by 你别祈祷了，除了傻子没人相信你 on 2008-10-26 23:08:17:

阁下是不懂裝懂的典型，也就是説在学術上行骗。这类骗子最喜欢颠倒黑白，制造大帽子嚇压别人。

首先我非常的赞成狹义相对論。說我反对狭义相对論，是無中生有的抹黑。其次狭義相对論並不能推出E = mc2。.故，很可能阁下並不是無恥的抹黑，而是無知和妄言而已!

於1946年，爱因斯坦已改变了1905-1909的覌点，並認为E = mc2只应用在能量守恒上。

質量的改变並不是唯一可改变天秤的重量讀数。故指出質量改变可忽略，並不能証明刘武青先生的实驗错了。故你的逻辑也有问题！

更精確地是，量子电動力学可得到与实驗相较最精確的数據. 量子场論却不能一般地得到精確的数據。再者，量子电动力学本身也不能看作是精確的理論。电子是有質量的，因此一个精確的理論必需包括有关於引力的部份。

故可以説，阁下並不懂量子场論。拿自已不懂的，冒充專家，難道你不覺得可恥嗎？你这樣地丢了北大的瞼，難道你不覺得有愧嗎？請问，物理学的大门你看到了嗎？周培源院士指出广义相对論有错，看来和你谈这些根本没有必要。好了，反省一下吧！

C. Y. Lo
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Re: 特别的中国式歧视与质量-电荷相互作用的确立 鲁重贤

Posted by 5589 (222.90.98.243) on 2008-10-27 12:41:48:

In Reply to: 特别的中国式歧视与质量-电荷相互作用的确立 鲁重贤 posted by 刘武青 on 2008-10-26 18:05:55:

无情,你只管作实验,不要做理论解释,你作不了,水平不够.你让中科院的人给你做理论解释,他们水平比你高.
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